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Merger proposal[edit]

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I propose merging Larry Elder 2024 presidential campaign into Larry Elder and leaving behind a redirect. I think that the content in the campaign can easily be explained within the biographical article for the foreseeable future, and a merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in the candidate’s main article. It is not clear whether the campaign will obtain enough note down the road to warrant its own article, but it is not useful to have a stub article at this moment. I am not opposed to a future spinning-off/re-creation of the campaign article if there later becomes sufficiently more to write about the campaign, but for now I believe the stub-article on the campaign serves no use and there is not enough to expand the article beyond what is now contained in it. I am in the process of making similar requests for some other 2024 campaign articles.

The main info of the campaign article would receive its own section of the Elder article, while the "Political positions" section would be merged with the Elder article's "Political views" section if any content mentioned in the campaign article is omitted from Elder's main article.

SecretName101 (talk) 15:51, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per the substance of the page and the arguments raised above. Zander123sims4 (talk) 01:14, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the tag, as the proposal has clearly failed at this point. BD2412 T 03:59, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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"Falun Gong movement" mention[edit]

I'm trying to understand the following statement in the opening introduction paragraph for Larry Elder, as it reads:

"He maintains ties to The Epoch Times, a far-right newspaper published by the Falun Gong movement."

I followed the source of this information; https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/technology/epoch-times-influence-falun-gong.html

The argument, if I read it clearly, is "Larry Elder has Anti-Chinese sentiment, there-fore he's associated with the Falun Gong movement". Because that is the only basis for the inclusion of that statement...There is no reference to anything but an opinion piece.

This is like saying "You like dogs? Hitler liked dogs too. You must be associated with the Nazis"... 2600:4041:5B5F:DF00:3979:1DCD:A8B5:2064 (talk) 01:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Now that campaign is over, I am again proposing a merge of Larry Elder 2024 presidential campaign into this article. The article has a "Political positions" section that is duplicative of a section featured within this article, and so should be merged. The rest of the article is five short paragraphs (each about two-sentences). Very clearly able to be merged without length issues. The campaign was not all that impactful or notable on the primaries, and therefore lacks much other content that could expand the page. The campaign received very little media coverage (it seemed it would often go weeks at a time without there being any news stories). This article was prematurely created, and was never justified as a separate page. SecretName101 (talk) 16:02, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I think that SecretName's reasons are valid. Considering he only ever gained true traction during the Newsom Recall, this belongs here for now. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. By no means was Larry Elder a notable enough candidate to deserve an entire Wikipedia page devoted to his campaign. Expoe34 (talk) 21:24, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Really the only major candidates who deserve a separate article are those who participated in at least one debate. (And the frontrunner trump) MoMoChohan (talk) 22:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Most of the campaign article is made from parts of this article and barely stands on its own. A merge would make the most sense here. DukeOfDelTaco (talk) 06:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. He never gained any traction and never made a debate. A megre would be the most logical. Yedaman54 (talk) 18:24, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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