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Internet Cats
[edit]Internet Cats; from Caturday macros to the most famous ones, we have ALL seen them. If you have a whole article on Rapcat and a list of cat-like pokemon, there is no excuse for exclusion of knowledge. I propose that the most famous of Internet cats be included: Longcat, Limecat, Speedycat, Happy Cat (the one certain morons call the 'I can has cheeseburger' cat), and such. Kakama5 (talk) 15:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Help me out
[edit]Help me out here--the "appalled with two Ps cat"--? Berke Breathed character? Orange, frazzled, sits splay-legged, whiskers crimped and haywire... If I could name what I can see.... --KQ
- Bill the Cat. - Montréalais
- Thanks! That's been nagging me for days. --KQ
Would the Pink Panther count as a cat for this list?? -- Anonymoues 09:33 Oct 27, 2002 (UTC)
- Why not? Hobbes is a stuffed tiger/real tiger. --KQ
Should we list Schrödinger's cat (or have we solved the paradox)? ;-) --KQ
Is Midnight the Cat, a character on TV's Smilin' Ed McConnell and His Buster Brown Gang and later Andy's Gang, from the late 1950s, whose voice was provided by June Foray, later the voice of Rocky the Squirrel (and a host of others) too obscure for this list? Probably so :( . Pluck your magic twanger, Froggie! -- Someone else 05:00 Oct 28, 2002 (UTC)
- I couldn't say. I haven't heard of about 1/3 of the cats listed already. :-( --KQ
- In that case I am emboldened to mention Puff, Sally's cat from the "Dick and Jane" series of reading primers (presumably US only?) of about the same time :) -- Someone else 05:09 Oct 28, 2002 (UTC)
There's surely some overlap between "Animation, comics, puppetry" and "Cats on TV"/"Cats on film", unless the latter two are intended to only include cats played by actual cats, in which case Bagpuss, the Pink Panther and others are misclassified. Ditto for dogs. Anyone sure what the intention was? Bagpuss 18:30 Jan 9, 2003 (UTC)
In the list of fictional felines, you need to add "Rhubarb" by H.Allen Smith (Doubleday 1946). Both the book and the movie (1947?) which stared Ray Milland. The story is about a large orange tabby cat who inherits a baseball team; the New York Loons. There are other good books about cats, and your list should reflect them. Lotus14 (talk) 01:36, 18 April 2019 (UTC)Lotus14
Bunnicula cat
[edit]If anybody can remember the name of the cat from the Bunnicula series, he should probably be added. Tuf-Kat
- Was it Chhester? -- Zoe
- ooh, sounds right, but I'm not sure enough to add it right now. Tuf-Kat
- I am. It was definitely Chester. Now, who remembers what the dog was called?
- --Paul A
- That one I remember -- Harold. Tuf-Kat
St. Ives
[edit]What, no spoiler warning on the St. Ives bit? ;-) -- JohnOwens 07:02 Mar 26, 2003 (UTC)
It did actually cross my mind. But this is a work of information after all! user:sjc
Rags is a tiger, not a cat. -- Zoe
So, are tigers not cats, now? -- JohnOwens
Felis tigris vs. Felis familiaris -- Zoe
We have a few of the "big cats" (Tony the Tiger, Kitty, Tigger, Pink Panther, Simba, Rags) so I think it's cats in a broad sense... --- Someone else 07:28 Mar 29, 2003 (UTC)
So is this a list of big cats as well as smaller cats (if so, we can get rid of lions & tigers on the other lists). Or maybe we should break them up into sub-lists so that you can actually find them, instead of having to look thru the whole list?
~ender 2003-09-20 08:47:MST
To whom it may concern: Please feel free to visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Dog breeds/Categories because I think that structuring Cat articles and Dog articles could take a similar tack--would be nice to use same subcategories for consistency. Elf | Talk 04:11, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Confirmation required
[edit]In the Cats in song section I'm quite sure the Bike (by Pink Floyd) entry is wrong, there's no mention of a cat in it --Mattyw 17:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Someone added the following to the article:
- The multi-legged "bedcats", six-legged wildcats that evolved from bedbugs, that appear in the Paul Bunyan legends
I can find no reference to these anywhere else. google:bedcat elicits only stories about cats sleeping on their staff's beds; googling for bedcat bedbug garners no hits at all; ditto for bedcat bunyan. --Phil | Talk 08:34, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
- You could argue that they aren't actually cats anyway, and should appear in the fictional species/creatures (I forget the actual article name) if they are in fact mentioned in these strange legends. violet/riga (t) 09:53, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
CATS cats
[edit]In the listing of cats for OP's Book of Practical Cats, it was mixed somewhat with the musical as well. For instance, Victoria is a cat from the musical, not the book. (Victor is in the book, however). Quaxo is either the same as Mistoffelees (as a name he is referred to by before his appearance), or a separate cat (this issue seems undecided amoung fans). However, Quaxo in the book is in no way related to Misto (who also has never been known as the Magical Tuxedo Cat as far as I know). Grizabella is not from the book. She is from a poem that T.S. Eliot chose not to include because he considered it too mature for children. She is, however, a very important character in the musical.
Regardless, I've attempted to make the separation between book and musical more accurate by removing cats not mentioned in the book, and correcting a bit of slightly off information along the way (for instance, we don't know Munkustrap is a protector from the book. Only the musical). Also, there's a separate list for the cats in the musical CATS that are not in OP's Book of Practical Cats. And for kicks, I've also added more cats not listed currently (even though most of them, we know nothing about except they're cats).
Due to the fact that listing them in order of appearance makes little sense to me as the order listed by appearance is currently inaccurate anyway, the listing has been modified to be alphabetical which is, while boring, a bit easier to look up cats.
Cat "titles" (such as in Macavity: The Mystery Cat) have been removed for consistency as in the book, cats have many different titles/nicknames which seem unimportant to list. For instance, along with Mystery Cat, you'd have to list Hidden Paw, Napoleon of Crime, etc, etc).
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Giant Tailchaser's Song list removes because it was stupid to have a vast list of unlnkined minor characters in an all-cats story, pasted below.
Dodger 12:19, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Cats of Tailchaser's Song
[edit]- From Tad Williams' Tailchaser's Song
- Fritti Tailchaser
- Beetleswat
- Blueback
- Brandyleg
- Brightnail
- Brindleside
- Bristlejaw
- Brushstalker
- Cleanwhisker
- Climbfast
- Cloudleaper
- Dandlegrass
- Dayhunter
- Earnotch
- Earpoint
- Eatbugs (a.k.a. Tangaloor Firefoot)
- Eyeshimmer
- Fela Skydancer
- Fencewalker
- Firsa Roofshadow
- Fleetpaw
- Flickerswift
- Furscuff
- Glideswallow
- Glidefur
- Grizraz Hearteater
- Hangbelly
- Harar Goldeneye
- Howlsong
- Hushpad
- Indez Grassnestle
- Irao Skystone
- Jumptall
- Leafrustle
- Lungeclaw
- Meerclar Allmother
- Mirmirsor Sunback
- Morningstripe
- Mudtracker
- Nightcatcher
- Ninebirds
- Pawgentle
- Pawgrip
- Pokesnout
- Pouncequick
- Quiverclaw
- Redlegs
- Rumblepurr
- Satinear
- Sleekheart
- Slipwhisker
- Smackbush
- Snagrat (from Hangbelly's Song)
- Snaremouse
- Snifflick
- Snufflenose
- Softwhisker
- Sourweed
- Squeakerbane
- Sresla Dewtreader
- Stretchslow
- Strongclaw
- Thinbone
- Tirya Clearsong
- Treesinger
- Twitchnose
- Volenibble
- Viror Whitewind
- Wavetail
- Windflower
- Windruffle
- Wolf-friend
Don't longcat and BIKECAT count as real cats? Assuming the photgraphs are real, the cats depicted are quite real as well. --Breathstealer 07:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Cats on the Internet
[edit]Should cats that are in animations or comics on the Internet go under Animations, Comics and Puppetry or Internet? E.g., Mittens and Snowdrop, from Matazone.co.uk are under Internet, but Choo Choo Bear, who is from a web-comic (S*P) is not under Internet but is under Animations, Comics and Puppetry. Any ideas for a rule? - CM
- Same with the Catbus from My Neighbor Totoro and Jiji from Kiki's Delivery Service-- should they be under Animation or Film or both? --Galaxiaad 17:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Cat-like Species
[edit]Should the fictional cat list also include such entries as Speaker-to-Animals, or more generally the whole Kzinti race, from Ringworld?
Repetive Listing of Mr. Tinkles of Cats and Dogs
[edit]Mr. Tinkles of Cats and Dogs is listed twice in the section "Cats and felines in film".--Kakurady 10:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- I see him listed three times. Pendragon39 23:55, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
'Miss Cat Ears' not a cat.
[edit]Could someone please stop adding 'Miss Cat Ears' under 'List of fictional cats in IT'? The 'character', if you can call it that, is not a cat - just a girl who wears cat ears.
Furthermore, the only reason it keeps getting added is so that a group of mentally disturbed Britney Spears fans can harass an innocent teenager living in Texas. PrincessDelphine 01:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter if she's "not a cat" - the same could be said about many of the characters in this list. This is about characters who take on the ficticious role of a cat, which could be applied to Miss Cat Ears (thus her name). Please stop reverting this addition - you're not contributing to the article by doing so. SpearsLover 08:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, if you're going to discuss this issue, please sign your comments using four tildes. Thanks. SpearsLover 08:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes it does matter - the 'character' is not a cat, therefore something that is not a cat should not be in an entry referring to fictional cats. I am contributing to the article by making sure it is correct. The character should be listed in the Catgirl article, as she is a girl who wears cat ears. I also have reason to believe that the inclusion of the character is meant to harass the teenager I first mentioned. PrincessDelphine 01:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, if you're going to discuss this issue, please sign your comments using four tildes. Thanks. SpearsLover 08:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Miss Cat Ears belongs under paraphelias or infantilism Dreadfullyboring (talk) 19:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Unlinked "Fat Cat"
[edit]I unlinked "Fat Cat" because the linked article did not refer to the character in question.--207.38.224.165 21:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
*chan memes
[edit]Why do cat memes from iichan & 7chan get left in, while Longcat from 4chan gets deleted? It should logically be both or neither. Redxiv 08:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
shouldn't long cat be at the famous cat part he is probably know by at least 80 million people Balmazer
I am all for long cat being on this list... +9000 from me! Joshhunt (talk) 08:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Name of article
[edit]This List claims to be about "fiction"al cats, but lists several entities taht are not part of works of fiction. Mythology is not fiction. "Cats in song" do not actually always refer to an actual entity of a specific fictional cat ( "Smelly Cat" c.f. "Cat's in the cradle"). Schroedinger's cat is a metaphor, not a piece of fiction. Memes such as ceilingcat are not "fictional cats" either, they are photos with writing on them...
I'd go somewhere with this but I have a meeting.--ZayZayEM 04:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Any cat without an individual article to support its notability should be removed. Any entry which is not an actual feline entity, but some form of cultural reference or title featuring "cats" should be removed. Without any dissent from this suggestion, I will enforce this at a later juncture. An article discussing the prominence of felids in popular culture using appropriate RS might be better suited over at Cats in popular culture--ZayZayEM (talk) 05:32, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Window Cat
[edit]There is a widely modified picture of an orange cat in a windowsill standing up with its paws out, some picture have a gun in front of it etc. That should maybe be mentioned.
1. http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/index.html?view=1166649580-nkqesgpd.jpg 2. http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/index.html?view=1162648268-1162646091520.jpg 3. another one that i cannot find
a cat restaurant show?
[edit]Scuse me, anyone even remember a tv show long ago about an overweight anthro cat who owned his own restaurant? Mialover730 13:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
revelance to anything?
[edit]Would someone like to explain to me what revelance this entry has to anything? WHat is the point od a list of fictional cats? Wrhapsody 04:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
we win
-proponents of the it-ness of cats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.97.146.107 (talk) 05:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm, mabe all of the cats this article links to?--72.88.123.139 (talk) 22:03, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
What's the point or relevance of any of the lists? It's an encyclopedia, you list things in an encyclopedia that's the whole point. Lotus14 (talk) 01:44, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Longcat's orders
[edit]Longcat says that this is ttly frickin' factual and must be kept. Wikisofia 18:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
McGonagall
[edit]She;s in there twice in literary cat: Professor and Minerva. Should one be taken out? which one? Megalodon99 Talk 01:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I noticed that on my own, and took out the first one because it was less informative. Celtic Minstrel (talk • contribs) 14:31, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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Disputed
[edit]This article has been tagged with an {{accuracy}} tag for over three months – I wouldn't be surprised if it's been there for a much longer time. Yet there was no discussion section on the talk page to discuss it. So... why's it disputed? How can it be fixed? Should the tag be removed? etc... —Celtic Minstrel (talk • contribs) 20:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
The not "it" pet Nonsense
[edit]For a couple of years now someone has been unjustly removing the factual and unbiased claims that cats are the new "it" pet. I presume we're all cat-lovers here, and cannot let this travesty continue. We all know cats are the new "it" pet, and there is scientific data and much testimonial to prove it. If you edit the list of cats, you know its true, its time we did something about these people.
- In response to this unsigned comment: read WP:V, WP:CITE and WP:RS. I removed the statement.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Catwoman
[edit]Should we add her? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.33.234.115 (talk) 20:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps her pet cat Isis, but no, she is a normal human. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.162.204.6 (talk) 10:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Wasn't her brother genetically altered to be like a CatMan though, a cat/man mutant would count right? And the Beast from X-Men, hes become feline in the past few years. Spider-Mn has an enemy the Puma or something too I think, been awhile since I checked anything but the Beast though —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 11:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- No article on her brother, Catman is apparently a very similar but different villain, but the three of them don't seem to be actually cats, just cat burglars. Beast is feline now so I put him and the Puma is a native american werecat so him to. Works so long as you don't care what kind of cats they are, if theres a no big cats policy, Puma can go but the Beast isn't necassarily related to big cats, apparently he found a domestic cat that mutated to be similar to him recently, or something, stopped reading Marvel when Colossus came back from the dead.
- See above, Miss Cat Ears. Dreadfullyboring (talk) 06:48, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Fictional ?
[edit]Usually we try to use a nicer word for things we don't believe in than Fictional, like List of Cats In Popular Culture. There are Gods on this list, parts of peoples religions and beliefs. You might also consider merging parts with the History of cats (which seems to be a Cats In Mythology except Egypt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 11:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'm ok with calling cats in religions as Fictional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreadfullyboring (talk • contribs) 06:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- Jeeze this page is a mess, according to the Aesop's Fables article its "alleged" the Fox and the cat is an Aesop, and theres a couple others where cats show up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 11:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Paddlepop Lion
[edit]I haven't noticed him on the page and I don't know how to add him and do a good job of it. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a proper name, just Paddlepop Lion - Witcharachne (talk) 09:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Catwings
[edit]Didn't notice them mentioned either. The link to the wiki article is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catwings -Witcharachne (talk) 12:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
two more
[edit]Old Tim and Old Tom from "King o' the Cats" (a fairytale, can't remember or find who wrote it).
Rajah, Jasmine's pet tiger from 'Aladdin'
-Witcharachne (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Those are from "More English Fairy Tales" by Joseph Jacob. An expanded version is done by Aaron Shepard and is titled "The King of Cats".
I wanted to put in that "The Three Lives of Thomasina" is also a popular cat film. I think the listing should be more complete to be useful. Listing "the top 3" is too opinionated and does not help people actually looking for information on cats in films much.
-Agapeyojimbo (talk) 6:53, 21 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.29.205.220 (talk)
Scratching post
[edit]Didn't Thursday Next have a cat named Schrödinger? (And if I boobed putting in Heinlein's flatcats, being not actual cats, do take it out.) TREKphiler hit me ♠ 13:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Possible Addition
[edit]Would Gary from Spongebob be a possible addition to this list? He technically isn't a cat, but he is meant to act like one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.243.179 (talk) 13:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC) Clearly not. I often act like a cat, yet I am not on this list. Ergo, Gary does not belong on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.91.79 (talk) 11:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Another Possible Addition
[edit]Jake from The Cat from Outer Space, a 1978 Disney Film.
Eriostemon (talk) 04:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
ADD from Comix
[edit]How about R. Crumb's Fat Freddie's Cat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tham153 (talk • contribs) 15:24, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Warriors
[edit]Just a problem I noticed here. In the category of literature, there is the warriors book series by Erin Hunter. There are hundreds of cats in that series, probably too many to list here. Should we just not list these, or does anybody have an alternate solution? --Ajedi32 (talk) 19:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Inclusion criterion
[edit]It's not clear to me that this list respect the guidelines as it is insufficiently cited and includes completely inconsequential cats appearing in works of fiction, such as a bunch of unnamed ones with mere mentions (e.g. "The unnamed and unseen cat that Ginny Weasley put her jumper on in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"). I mean, seriously?--137.122.49.102 (talk) 13:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that the "jumper cat" is too trivial for this list, but don't see any inclusion criteria at WP:SALAT. I have seen suggestions elsewhere for such criteria; my own opinion is that a cat should be of sufficient importance to be mentioned in the article on the work of fiction, or it would be if the work had its own article. Matchups 03:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
What about the unnamed cat owned by the Potters as mentioned in Lily's letter in Deathly Hallows? Would that be too insignificant? I don't think it is much of a spoiler. --Webbie1234 (talk) 07:24, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Children books
[edit]I think "children books" shall be a subcategory on its own distinct from literature... one can just confuse oneself with other types of cats there...Undead Herle King (talk) 08:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Merger suggestion
[edit]I have suggested that we merge List of fictional cheetahs into this parent list because cheetahs are also felines and this list already has 5 cheetahs listed. Furthermore, the list of fictional cheetahs is quite short and mainly consists of unlinked and usually non-notable entries. Any thoughts on the matter? -Thibbs (talk) 22:02, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm. It's no smaller than the other bigcat lists (See List of fictional animals). We can't merge all of them to here. Any other options? -- Quiddity (talk) 00:11, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well biologically-speaking the other "bigcats" are panthers (from genus Panthera) whereas domestic cats and cheetahs are not. The same goes for cougars and pumas actually, although they are informally called panthers sometimes in North America. I was thinking about merging all non-panther cats into "list of fictional cats and other felines" and then merging all panthers (lions, tigers, jaguars, etc.) into another list. The argument regarding size doesn't take into account the fact that all lists in this area are incredibly bloated with non-notable entries which would have to be removed prior to the merge. But since you ask for another option, how's this:
- Another option could be to strictly define this article to only contain domestic house-cats and then to merge all of the others into a "list of bigcats" which we could define to include genera Panthera, Puma, and Acinonyx. Does this sound better to you? -Thibbs (talk) 13:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Splitting the content into 2 lists based on subfamily (Pantherinae and Felinae) seems like a potentially good idea to me. And some judicious trimming would definitely be good. I've watchlisted everything, and will help out if I can find some time. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well biologically-speaking the other "bigcats" are panthers (from genus Panthera) whereas domestic cats and cheetahs are not. The same goes for cougars and pumas actually, although they are informally called panthers sometimes in North America. I was thinking about merging all non-panther cats into "list of fictional cats and other felines" and then merging all panthers (lions, tigers, jaguars, etc.) into another list. The argument regarding size doesn't take into account the fact that all lists in this area are incredibly bloated with non-notable entries which would have to be removed prior to the merge. But since you ask for another option, how's this:
Yes. I'm concerned that the scope of this article at present is overly broad. No-one can hope to maintain a comprehensive list of both pantherinae and felinae in one place. As an example. I have only just added Aslan to the list; he was not present before despite being a very prominent fictional lion. -not logged in — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.152.24 (talk) 07:58, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Geography Los Gatos
[edit]Excuse me for writing under this heading, I do not know how to create another. My question is for the Geographic section of the page, would Los Gatos in California be included here? Kerosene555 (talk) 10:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I'm not sure whether the item that is currently there, should be. (List of fictional cats and other felines#Geography (Cat City) -> Kuching), but on the other hand, I can't think of a better place to list them (as having a notable cat-connection). Anyone else have any input?
- I've added the ==[title]== to this thread, and a welcome template on your usertalk page. :) -- Quiddity (talk) 22:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Merger proposal
[edit]I have just proposed that we merge List of fictional cats into this article. This other list clearly fits under the umbrella of this article and it is less than 2k in size with near-100% duplication. Thoughts? -Thibbs (talk) 13:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Definitely, and Done. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Ambiguity With Schrödinger's Cat (who would have thought)
[edit]Not only is this cat both alive and dead, it appears to be both real and fictional, as it appears on both the fiction and non-fiction lists. It is a bit of a cute easter egg, but we should probably open the box and decide its status. --Djohns21 (talk) 02:30, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Proposal
[edit]I'm proposing that we do quite a bit of cleanup with this list, although I expect no help, I'd like to pare it down a bit, removing some of the less-notable entries, and unnamed cats. The list is too large to be useful. I propose removing pokemon and yu-gi-oh sections, splitting animation/comics/puppets into separate sections, removing all the items listed under "see also" that are redundant to the navbox at the bottom of the page, converting all information into a wikitable along the lines of List of fictional dogs in comics, transferring all sections (Except the most notable examples) into separate articles such as List of fictional cats in animation, list of fictional cats in comics etc, Re-organizing the sections, (I prefer literature to be first, if only because it's typically the largest section and possibly the most likely sought after). If anyone would like to help me with this, or has any questions, comments, concerns, or protests, please reply here or at my talk page. I plan on starting this project in the next week or so. Thanks! Ncboy2010 (talk) 00:21, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- In the meantime I may do some minor cleanup, although I'll not do anything too drastic too soon. Ncboy2010 (talk) 01:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Excuse me, but "removing [the] pokemon section"? It is one of the only sourced pieces of content in the page, and helps with notability. If you want to merge it into one of the other sections and maybe remove the ones that do not have full articles, then that is fine(although I assume that anons will re-add the other names), but simply suggesting removing the whole section with no argument as to why seems a little odd and offensive. The problem with it being merged into a section is the fact that they belong to both games and television equally. I am fine with whichever section they end up in though, as long as they are represented in some fashion. Blake (Talk·Edits) 05:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- The problem with listing pokemon on a list like this is that it broadens the definition of a "fictional cat" to a degree that renders the list too vague to prevent massive bloating.
- Everyone knows what a cat is, and everyone can agree that although he walks like a human and talks in English and carries on in other ways as a non-cat, Felix the Cat is a cat that appears in fiction. The only way to make Meowth into a cat is to make the claim that in the fictional Pokémon universe he fills the same role as cats do in the real universe. The Pokemon literature always refers to Meowth as a cat-type pokémon and the series consistently identifies and regards pokémon as a fictional type of species. Since cats (even fictional cats) don't belong to a fictional species, it is clear that cat-type pokémon are not accurately described as cats.
- Further explanation can be found here. -Thibbs (talk) 16:26, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I still don't agree, and I think if we actually asked a larger audience for a consensus, then it would turn in favor of keeping them. I think excluding them for a small technicality like that is silly. They are obviously cats, and belong on a list of fictional cats. I won't argue anymore on the matter unless you want a request for comment to be made. Otherwise, do what you want and I will unwatch this page, and it will lose one of its only good sources for notability. Blake (Talk·Edits) 19:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not interested in driving you away from the article, Blake. I have seen your edits in the past and I value your contributions. I do disagree with your view on this specific issue though. I don't see how it can be obvious that "cat-type pokemon" are "cats" when this view is actually contradicted by the primary sources. To me it's obvious that Pokémon are not animals of the sort we find in a fictionalized version of the real world. I know it's a strict approach to the list's definition, but I don't think that it's a good move to have a loose definition for "cat" when even with the current definition the article is too all-encompassing. There is a very good list article already in place that is designed for characters like Meowth, etc. -Thibbs (talk) 23:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I just am saying that my contribution into this article is the Pokemon section. If you remove it, then I no longer have any connection to the article, and I will no longer be in your way. I would be ecstatic to see the day one of these "List of fictional x" articles become featured. Good luck. Blake (Talk·Edits) 02:56, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not interested in driving you away from the article, Blake. I have seen your edits in the past and I value your contributions. I do disagree with your view on this specific issue though. I don't see how it can be obvious that "cat-type pokemon" are "cats" when this view is actually contradicted by the primary sources. To me it's obvious that Pokémon are not animals of the sort we find in a fictionalized version of the real world. I know it's a strict approach to the list's definition, but I don't think that it's a good move to have a loose definition for "cat" when even with the current definition the article is too all-encompassing. There is a very good list article already in place that is designed for characters like Meowth, etc. -Thibbs (talk) 23:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- I still don't agree, and I think if we actually asked a larger audience for a consensus, then it would turn in favor of keeping them. I think excluding them for a small technicality like that is silly. They are obviously cats, and belong on a list of fictional cats. I won't argue anymore on the matter unless you want a request for comment to be made. Otherwise, do what you want and I will unwatch this page, and it will lose one of its only good sources for notability. Blake (Talk·Edits) 19:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- Excuse me, but "removing [the] pokemon section"? It is one of the only sourced pieces of content in the page, and helps with notability. If you want to merge it into one of the other sections and maybe remove the ones that do not have full articles, then that is fine(although I assume that anons will re-add the other names), but simply suggesting removing the whole section with no argument as to why seems a little odd and offensive. The problem with it being merged into a section is the fact that they belong to both games and television equally. I am fine with whichever section they end up in though, as long as they are represented in some fashion. Blake (Talk·Edits) 05:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Ok, if there are no other objections, I shall begin today! Ncboy2010 (talk) 15:15, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Done!
[edit]I've finished with the article, although the legend section could probably use a wikitable. Ncboy2010 (talk) 22:15, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
The Cat in the Hat
[edit]I noticed a three headed lion from Beast Quest had been added which didn't seem notable enough (moved him to the list of fictional cats in literature, which is full of random kitties). But I also added the Cat in the Hat because: the book is a landmark of children's fiction, having sold more than a million copies within 3 years of publication; it consistently appears on best books for children lists (eg this [|one from the book trust in 2013]); it's been made into TV and movie editions ... I think that makes it notable enough and was surprised to see it missing. Aelfgifu (talk) 11:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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Yair The Cat
[edit]I was reading through the description of "Yair the Cat" and noticed a few discrepancies with its legitimacy. First and foremost, it is listed under literature and yet has 17 seasons? It then lists some characters which I can only assume are all from Wow! Wow! Wubbzy, a show which does not contain a character named "Yair". I and some friends attempted to find any reference to this character and found this, which has... no references whatsoever? My main issue with the description was the fact that the character is dating a character called Bluey, who is a character from a widely popular TV series, and not from a "book" called "Yair the Cat".
I really don't think the person who added this cat knew if it was real or not (pretty sure it was from this revision) but I'm almost 90% sure it's fake. Just wanted to check if anyone else had seen this or if they know what this character is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingedlionn (talk • contribs) 19:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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