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Review: August 23, 2014. (Reviewed version).

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Section size for Major League Soccer (37 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	11,774	11,774
Competition format	8,808	18,513
Other competitions	9,705	9,705
Teams	8,453	14,546
Future team	383	383
Former teams	882	882
Timeline	4,828	4,828
History	3,480	63,500
Establishment	12,254	12,254
Resurgence	5,188	5,188
Arrival of Designated Players	7,746	7,746
Expansion of the league	30,584	34,832
Expansion fees	4,248	4,248
League championships	5,282	5,282
Organization	18	92,424
Ownership	8,623	8,623
League executives	1,768	1,768
Player acquisition and salaries	10,080	15,019
Designated Players and allocation money	4,939	4,939
Youth development	8,510	8,510
Stadiums	21,499	21,499
Profitability and revenues	29,175	29,175
Rules and officials	2,868	2,868
Branding	1,814	4,944
Team names	3,130	3,130
Media coverage	125	16,638
MLS Season Pass on Apple TV	2,589	2,589
United States	6,678	6,678
Canada	3,712	3,712
International	2,563	2,563
Video games	971	971
Player records	5,740	8,079
Player records (active)	2,339	2,339
MLS awards	1,217	1,217
See also	423	423
References	72	72
External links	993	993
Total	233,461	233,461

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Leagues Cup and Stats Table (Continental vs Other)[edit]

Where should the Leagues Cup be reported in the Stats table? I feel like it should be in the Other column as its not a true Continental competition (ala a Champions League). To me it’s more like the Campeones Cup (a MLS/LigaMX tourny as well) that we recorded in the Other column. RedPatch (talk) 11:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think “other” makes sense. It’s more like a league cup where every club participates. BLAIXX 15:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even other international competitions like UEFA super Cup get put in other, so putting in Other seems more consistent with what we do worldwide. Continental seems to be something you qualify for via domestic league, which this isn't. RedPatch (talk) 23:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Quickman70: for his thoughts. RedPatch (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Messi[edit]

How is there no mention of Messi joining MLS on July 15th? 68.41.52.205 (talk) 00:06, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2023[edit]

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Add FC Cincinnati to the table of winners. 0 MLS Cups, 1 Supporters' Shield (2023), 5 seasons. 2600:2B00:7ECE:5B00:8BD6:9E8:BFF7:DF2A (talk) 00:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 20:02, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix clubs[edit]

It's fairly confusing to see clubs 'founded' in 1975 only to click on the article to find they were founded in 2007 or similar. The date of the foundation of the current club should be used 80.194.54.138 (talk) 21:39, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can agree with that. "Claimed founding" years have been added and removed from this article several times. Some of the founding years are quite egregious too, particulary the four clubs claiming to have been founded in the 70s. All of those teams have had stretches of inactivity before a new team was founded with the same name (Vancouver: 1985–86, Portland: 1983–84, 1991–2000, Seattle: 1984–93, San Jose: 1989–95). BLAIXX 14:17, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The teams and secondary sources use the NASL founding dates rather than the USL ones, so I don't think we should be making that call here. Sounder Bruce 04:45, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

None of the founding years are cited in that table so it's not really not clear to the reader where these numbers come from. Using Seattle as an example, most sources I see list 2007 as the founding date. I know the club is promoting "1974" with the new logo and the 50th anniversary but it still feels misleading to me and not universally backed up by secondary sources. Same goes for the other phoenix clubs. BLAIXX 14:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Player Records[edit]

I don't know how to edit (oopsies), but as of 2024, Gyasi Zardes is a top 10 MLS all-time goalscorer. List needs to be updated. SlossEdits (talk) 21:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]