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I was wondering how I can add some information from Dr. Holly Ordway's article, "What’s in a Name? Tolkien and St. Philip Neri", to the page without my edit being reverted as it was before by FlightTime. FlightTime claimed on my talk page that my edit was disruptive, but even after I voiced my objection on FlightTime's talk page and got a response, I still do not see how my edit was disruptive in any way. I followed the cite web template when citing the source and I kept the page at J. R. R. Tolkien because that is the name that most people know him as. FlightTime suggested (somewhat hostilely, but I didn't mind) that I post on the talk page to the page in question. Would somebody be willing to please explain to me where exactly I went wrong with my edit and how I can add the information to the page without my edit getting reverted a second time? I look forward to and await a response.Dour1234 (talk) 20:37, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dour1234:, the Ordway article is an interesting light on Tolkien's Catholicism, and I'm glad to have been pointed to it. However, I don't see that
a single instance of 'Philip',
written in an obscure script (in 1931 nobody else could have read it, as far as I know),
supported by speculation about a single serif in some versions of his monogram
is enough to to mention in this article, let alone change Tolkien's name in the lede paragraph. There is no evidence he wished to be known by the name, nor did he use it in his publications or letters.
If someone were to write an article about Tolkien's Catholicism (and I think there's plenty of material to support that) then 'Philip' would be worth mentioning. -- Verbarson talkedits09:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The lead section of the article claims that: "the great success of The Lord of the Rings led directly to a popular resurgence of the genre", and links to Works inspired by J. R. R. Tolkien in support of this claim. The "popular resurgence" claim is problematic. Yes, there were earlier fantasy writers like Morris, Dunsany, Cabell, Eddison, etc., but at the time LOTR was published, there was not yet a cohesive fantasy tradition from which to "resurge".
I am surprised to see how nothing has been written concerning the fact that Tolkien was born in the Republic of South Africa. It does show Bloemfontein but more could've been mentioned to that effect. Why do people mostly want to associate Africa with disease, starvation, and just poverty? The writer obviously benefitted SOMETHING from Africa. The article must be edited to show a clearer picture. 45.215.254.1 (talk) 19:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the thoughts. He left SA when still very young. Some scholars have suggested that Shelob the giant spider owes something to a childhood memory (covered over there); otherwise there is little that could possibly be mentioned here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]