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I suggest making a link/comment at the beginning of the article to Warner Bros. Discovery, Inc. because WarnerMedia was spun off and merged with Discovery, Inc. on April 8, 2022. That way it would be clearer that the company is now called Warner Bros. Discovery, Inc. 2A02:21B4:14E4:4500:CCEE:728B:D45A:9B1D (talk) 11:55, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WBD is a separate entity, and thus Warner Bros. Discovery has its own article. It is linked near the bottom of the lead. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:01, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership history of WarnerMedia

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Would it be possible if we add more companies to the list of Parent Companies? Also, was Time Warner AOL, Inc. a publicly trading company or was it owned by AOL. There are some inconsistencies in the article that make it hard to tell. Specifically: "AOL stock fell from $220 Billion to $20 Billion" Did you mean AOL Time Warner? WiinterU (talk) 18:11, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs permanent protection

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I just caught some obvious vandalism in the lead sentence which was inserted on 30 December 2021 from a now-blocked IP address. Apparently no one had caught it for over two years. And that was just the first paragraph.

The underlying problem seems to be that no one cares about Warner Bros. and their crummy movies ever since they lost Christopher Nolan to Universal Pictures. So it looks like very few regular editors are monitoring this article and the vandals are running amok. This article needs to be permanently protected. Coolcaesar (talk) 14:43, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Coolcaesar: You can submit a request for page protection at WP:RPP, not here. This article has been protected in the past (last one was in June 2021), though the issue you reverted doesn't seem to have been as directly harmful vandalism as you claim, with a change from "doing business as" to "traded as", which essentially convey/mean the same thing despite DBA being mainly the dominantly-used American term. External opinions aside, please take up the protection request at the dedicated page for it if you feel it is strongly desired/necessary. You are always welcome to contribute and cleanup this article yourself if you spot any further issues, and you can request for other contributors to help in editing at one of the WikiProjects which cover this article (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Companies or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Media). I do not believe a permanent protection request is in order, though, as this article does not seem to have a clear history of systemic abuse that would warrant such an action, per the criteria addressed here, though I would still take it up with RPP and would advise requesting semi-protection instead, which is more likely to be accepted in the interim. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 August 2024

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WarnerMedia → Time Warner – When considering the WP:COMMONNAME of a defunct entity, we must consider its entire existence. This company was known as "Time Warner" from 1990 until 2018 (including a span as "AOL Time Warner" 2001–2003), but as "WarnerMedia" for less than 4 years. 162 etc. (talk) 19:38, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly oppose. Reverting to a prior name, post-dissolution makes no sense. Time Warner can also be confused with Time Warner Cable. The current title is concise and factually correct. Adriazeri (talk) 23:16, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose: Common name does not apply here as no sources refer to the predecessor of WBD that was owned by AT&T as Time Warner, which was pre-AT&T. This is the WP:OFFICIALNAME of this defunct business and should not be changed. The Time Warner name is already covered for when it was used. We do not place more emphasis on one former name just because someone thinks we should. The article isn't titled "Warner Communications" or "AOL TimeWarner" for the same reason. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:22, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose I believe that the article isn't named as AOL Time warner, TimeWarner, or Warner Communications, all happened pre-AT&T. Just as WarnerMedia is a defunct entity doesn't mean that previous name pre-AT&T era should be used. 103.111.100.82 (talk) 02:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per WP:NAMECHANGES, which say that we should give greater weight to sources published after the name changes. Most of the sources published after the name change refer to this company as "WarnerMedia", not "Time Warner". – Epicgenius (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Reusing a name from a company that no longer exists is strange. The title is perfectly fine. Waqar💬 15:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Very confused at the strength of the objections above; moves on this logic have routinely succeeded elsewhere. It's very common for an entity to have had one name for very long period of time, another name in their fading twilight years, and Wikipedia to favor the majority-tenure name. It's a little wacky in this case because WarnerMedia was not a minor corporation at all, existing in the Internet age, so there's plenty of sources using "WarnerMedia", but the nominator's logic is sound. Time Warner was not a minor company, and its 28 years of existence should count for more than the 3.5 years of being WarnerMedia. SnowFire (talk) 18:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just because something similar has been done elsewhere on Wikipedia does not mean the same should apply to this instance. WP:NAMECHANGES holds precedence that if sources show the new name has become more common in the years since the name change, that should be used. This is not about what name was used the longest. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sources written when the company was Time Warner will use "Time Warner"; more recent sources written when the company was WarnerMedia will use "WarnerMedia". The best sources would be the most recent, written after the dissolution and from a retrospective POV; admittedly, I've had a hard time finding such examples. 162 etc. (talk) 20:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Most sources point to WarnerMedia being the common name of the entity. The fact that sources do not use "TimeWarner" to refer to WarnerMedia is because that has not been the common name in recent years and is unlikely to return to it in years following when sources look back upon the transition from WarnerMedia into WBD. Trailblazer101 (talk) 20:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is a weirdly hostile response. The general principle is one that is noncontroversial elsewhere, far from "I found a single exception somewhere." Suppose that Time Warner had lasted 100 years rather than 28? 1000 years? To me this implies the possibility of a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS. Now, to be sure, if your crystal ball is accurate and sources in the future refer to the entity as "WarnerMedia" rather than "Time Warner" in retrospectives and coverage of the firm, then sure. But I'm very much the reverse of you - why are you so certain that they will and that this is the common name? There are metric heaps of sources using "Time Warner" and just 3.5 years of sources using "WarnerMedia." A quick Google for news coverage on "WarnerMedia" shows largely contemporary references to WarnerMedia at the moment of the merger, but searching for "Time Warner" gets stuff like this news story: Gerald M. Levin, Time Warner Chief in a Merger Debacle, Dies at 84. Now, you're going to argue that Levin wasn't chief when WarnerMedia was around, and that's true, but that's also exactly the point. MOST of the stuff that happened to most of the people were when WarnerMedia wasn't around. The last 3.5 years were impactful, but the previous 28 were even more impactful, and I expect that the "Time Warner" name will predominate - we won't anachronistically call Time Warner "WarnerMedia" for those. SnowFire (talk) 02:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support I am surprised at the strenuous nature of the objections myself. When I wrote the current WP:NCBC, about related (but not instantly applicable) naming conventions, I wanted to solve an issue that affected some defunct radio stations. Most U.S. radio station articles are call sign–titled at the current—or, in the case of a defunct station, final—call sign used. That results in some issues where the final call sign used may have been so brief as to not be a common name or a title that surprises a reader. For instance, WHSC (Hartsville, South Carolina) got that title because its last two call signs were not often used, one of them in the final five days of the facility's life; had been relocated from much longer uses (both in Toledo, Ohio!); and it made way more sense to use the call sign associated with the station for 63 of its 69 years of operation. KICE (AM) by the "final call sign of broadcast" rule was KCOE (AM), but its sole programming under that call sign was a loop advising listeners to retune their radios as the facility was being dismantled. KTTL avoided being "KMCS (Kansas)" because its notoriety and most of its broadcasting occurred under the other call sign.
    WP:COMMONNAME does not contain much guidance about this scenario, when a company or entity changes its name in the final years of existence. At some point, we cross a threshold from living entity to defunct entity, and 162 etc. is correct in ascertaining a difference in treatment. In ProQuest, a search for "Time Warner" NOT cable turns up 372,000 hits, while WarnerMedia turns up 54,388 results. There is a NAMECHANGES case, but I lightly lean support. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose Per WP:NAMECHANGES WiinterU 01:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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