Talk:Absolute majority
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Definition
[edit]If an absolute majority doesn't include abstentions/absences, then what is it called when there is a majority of the entire voting body? (This was the case when Turkey's parliament voted to help the U.S./U.K. "coalition" in Iraq, and the majority voted in favor, but if failed because their rules required a majority of every member, including ones who didn't vote.) –radiojon 00:13, 2003 Dec 3 (UTC)
- A late answer... this would be a "majority of all the members" rather than "a majority of those members present and voting".138.67.12.23 21:56, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- An absolute majority is a majority of the entire body. A majority of just those voting is a simple majority. Check Robert's Rules. Pmadrid 01:29, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Cite your sources
[edit]Can someone please independently cite the use of this term? I attempted to verify some of the information in this article and was unable to do so. A google search returned only Wikipedia and its mirrors or use of the phrase in a more general sense, not in ways consistent with the definition in this article. It did not turn up in any of my old textbooks, either. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 01:12, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Ambiguous term
[edit]"Absolute majority" is, by its nature, ambiguous. Some people use it to refer to a majority, as opposed to a plurality. It can mean:
- A majority (two definitions).
- A majority of the voters that are present or participate, including those voters that abstain.
- A majority of the entire membership.
- A majority of the fixed membership.
I really think this one needs a major rewrite.
--J. J. in PA 19:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Should majority of the entire membership go in its own separate article, do you think? I hesitate to keep this article within the purview of WikiProject Parliamentary Procedure since the term "absolute majority" does not appear in RONR. Obuibo Mbstpo (talk) 21:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
RfC on merge/redirect to supermajority
[edit]- Should this unreferenced article be redirected to its parent topic, which already contains a sizeable section covering precisely the same ground, supermajority#Majority of the entire membership?
Please place comments within your own headed section and avoid threaded discussions within others' sections.
Comments
[edit]- Comments from (involved) TreasuryTag - This article is an exceptionally uselss content fork. Textbook case, in fact. There is absolutely nothing to suggest the notability of the 'absolute majority' as a topic in itself. The article is very short and completely unreferenced. I have yet to hear a good reason for not simply merging the useful material into our already existing article which covers precisely the same topic, supermajority#Majority of the entire membership.
I would also like to take this opportunity to condemn Blue-Haired Lawyer (talk · contribs) for blind revert-warring without the slightest attempt at explanation or discussion. ╟─TreasuryTag►secretariat─╢ 19:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Merge - While "absolute majority" is a valid topic, it is a clear subset of "supermajority", and since the Supermajority article is rather small (as is this Absolute majority article), it makes most sense to combine them into a single article. If there were a significant number of sources devoted to "absolute majority", that would argue against a merger, but Im not seeing such sources. If a time comes when that merged article becomes large, a WP:Content fork can happen. --Noleander (talk) 00:45, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Comment - If you want to delete an article you have to go for wp:prod or wp:afd. An editor are not entitled to simply blank an article just because you don't like it and I was fully entitled to revert for this. I did not blindly revert. TreasuryTag blindly reverted and wrongly accused me of failed to enter an edit summary when I had.
You can of course boldly merge an article if you want to, although it is normal to propose mergers in this manner.
It is obvious that the article is sourced. I can't see how you could conclude otherwise.
Absolute majority is a sub-article not a content fork. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 17:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)- Yes an editor "are" entitled to redirect content-forks. I don't know why you keep mentioning WP:AFD despite me repeating that that's not appropriate for redirects. Perhaps it's because you're not listening. ╟─TreasuryTag►tortfeasor─╢ 17:06, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Support Redirect It doesn't look like it is a distinct enough topic to justify a fork from the super majority article. Monty845 06:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- I was invited here by the RFC bot but have just now had a chance to comment. I realize that TT has already merged and redirected as proposed, but the prior version of this article was a content fork and a redirect to supermajority makes much more sense, therefore I support the proposed (and completed) resolution. —DoRD (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
- Merge into supermajority. Jonathunder (talk) 19:14, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Absolute majority - redirect
[edit]The most common meaning of Absolute majority is "more than half", that is a majority. (Relative majority = plurality) I propose this page should redirect to Majority, not supermajority as now there are a lot of redirects going to the wrong article Rankedchoicevoter (talk) 09:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)