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Debate Clarification
[edit]I think the arguments in favour of and against curfews should be better clarified in the article. It's a pretty big topic and there are a lot mroe arguments on both sides than are listed here. klfd;ljgrea frnkel.jfres frmekls.gnvre kdelma;fregv5r mfkle;vome;g mfrke;garg rkmeagl.hngm mfrdel rsn dksa kemdwa;v rek jnrfwafklubr efnjwALIFRBE FEKWMAKFM;EF DSNF;KESLFBEW — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.91.85.248 (talk) 22:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Last Sentence
[edit]Whoever wrote that last shttp://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/button_sig.png Your signature with timestampentence (the HOT ACTION one) is a fucking idiot. I'm fifteen years old, male, and heterosexual; and I have not, nor will I ever engage in HOT ACTION after 12:30pm. I'm deleting the sentence. MaxW 02:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Views on curfews
[edit]Teenagers under age 17 should have a curfew so there wont be too much of a violence-
I dont think we should have curfews some of us aren't as bad as others. So why should we be punished for people's bad choices. If they want to be out they should have permission from their parents, not the law. It should be up to their parents. Did the law raise kids? Nope. So I think that kids under the age of 18 should go by what their parents say and think is reasonable. I know all the people who enforced this law think that they are helping kids, but they're probably making it alot worse by making the kids feel more rebellious. And I know that I get pissed when I can't go and stay out late on a saturday night even though my parents already said I could.
From another persons point of view-
Considering that I cannot pick a side, I will make a view at both points:
My curfew view- There are many reasons why curfews have been enforced. I am only 12 and do not live in an enviroment with a curfew so I could careless, but I see many rants as is. The Curfew law is supposably put to make sure that kids who are young and vulnerable don't go out and get raped or shot. Of course there are people who can hold their own against the world. But even so, it is not official that you are known responsible enough. Even if you are maybe someone isn't. Anyway, by age 18 you should be able to control your actions and can handle yourself better whereas if you are a vulnerable kid, not saying everyone is, you aren't raped as easy. You would already by that time know when you are in a unsafe enviroment or not. Already knowing that even the known safest enviroment isn't exactly fully secure either. This is only an opinion if I was on the side of the curfew law.
My non-curfew view- I know that the law, or "the man", is trying to plant a curfew time for certain areas. Meaning we aren't allowed out of our house at certain times. As much as I understand the concerns that they have of us being out at night, I think it isn't necessary that we should have it. Not saying we all go out at night and underage drink or pop caps into people or vice versa. We consider it dictatorship because we have no rights. You have no right to take away our privileges. But, for the law to even lay down a curfew is just like taking away our freedom. If there is one person who should even think about what we should do and what time we come home, it would be our parent/guardian. I mean, if you are gonna let people drop out of school, only if you have a letter from your parent/guardian, then why not the parent/guardian also decide what time their own child goes out.
- This is meant to be an article on curfews in the style of an encyclopedia, so that means factual information. Although I appreciate that this is topic that can stir very strong feelings, if you want a change in how curfews are used or not used, migFile:Áht I suggest raising them with your elected representatives rather than here. Astaroth5 13:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
P.S. From the guy that edited this- Please type more accurately if you wish to be taken seriously. PS water bottles are my favourite animal.
P.S. Stop putting swearing words into this text please.
Cleanup/rewrite
[edit]Teen curfew's are a serious issue and the section needs to be cleaned up by someone familiar with the subject matter. The text is both sparse and poorly written in many places, and more factual evidence is needed.
I have taken the liberty to change the generalistic statement that many teenagers commit crimes at night, to some teenagers.
- JaMiE P
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Unfortunately, I agree. I believe I can re-write it.. but seeing that I am new, it's slightly hard to figure out how to add it. =P
-Rebellaire
The Should we have teen curfews? external link is terribly written and doesn't contribute any valuable information - I'm going to remove it unless someone can find a decent reason to keep it. Rarr 21:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
We should have it
[edit]Why shouldn't we? What do we have to do at 2 o'clock in the morning that we couldn't at 10 in the evening? Most teens don't really have a reason to be out at 2 o'clock in the morning anyway. And the ones who are against it are the ones who are always out and causing trouble at the night.
- Christ. It doesn't _matter_ what _you_ think children should be doing at a particular time. What matters is whether the law has the right to restrict freedom of movement. We have a little document called "the constitution" that says 'no,' but those of you who don't understand the concept of restriction of government power tend to disregard it. Also, learn to spell, or at least use a spell-checker. It doesn't take much time, and it would make your argument sound slightly less retarded.
- Well I'm against it, just because I believe in personal liberty and authority. The notion that "all have to suffer from the mistakes of a few" seems to overrule in this case. And I've always hated that notion, because I never ever do things that are harmful or violent, don't drink alcohol, anything, so that doesn't give police any reason to arrest me at all. You are making a blanket statement on all who "are agisnt it" but not all cause trouble at night. - AstareGod 13:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Ah yes, my fellow friend. "-MOST TEENS- don't really have a reason to be out at 2 o'clock in the morning anyway" Note how I emphasized a part of it.
So all teens should be locked up at night because a minority of them go out and do stupid things? Don't adults do that to? Why isn't there an adult curfew? I know! Let's lock teens up in concentration camps so they can't cause trouble! The government should not have any right to restrict people's rights just because they're under sixteen, or whatever age you happen to choose. You have also said that "And the ones who are against it are the ones who are always out and causing trouble at the night". That is wrong. Very few teenagers support curfews, including ones who are well-behaved and law-abiding (I know from experience). They're the ones who suffer from it, you see- suppose that you're fifteen, you've been out to see a movie with your mates, or your girlfriend, or whoever. You're walking hoe down a street, then the cops pull up and arrest you for being sixteen, even though you haven't committed any crime. How would you feel? Also, whether or not people have a reason to be out is beside the point: you might not necessarily have a reason to be homosexual, or hold a certain religion, or take a particulr job- but does the mean you shoudln't ahve the right to do it?
- Calms Down*
Anyway, I was thinking we should perhaps detail the debate a bit more on the article, as in we should perhaps list the points provided by both sides of the argument, sort of like what is done in the Video Game Controversy article.
California Curfew
[edit]http://calbar.ca.gov/calbar/html_unclassified/4kids-07.htm Who wrote the BS that was there before? Only one or two states have curfew laws (one of them being Indiana, I think). All curfew decisions are left to counties and cities, which makes it harder to overturn the law. To get rid of a state law, all you need is one smart, brave kid willing to get arrested. With this set-up, you need one in each county, which isn't going to happen.
Actually in Illinois, since January 1, 2008, there has been a state wide curfew stateing that all teenagers under the age of 18 are not allowed to drive past 10pm Sunday-Thursday and not past 11pm Friday and Saturday and can not begin driving until 6 am the next day. There are certain allowances for jobs and school functions. Otherwise though, if caught out driving after such times your license could be suspended.146.163.51.133 (talk) 21:30, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
If those of you who support youth curfews understand nothing else, realize that they presuppose that people are guilty of a crime based only on (flawed) statistical data. If you don't understand why that goes against our whole legal system, you don't deserve to live here. Also, you anonymous posters: get an account, or get a life. Learning English might be a good first step. Therealhazel 02:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Injuries and fights after Curfew hours
[edit]If someone knows something about this please tell me!!
- Say what now? Therealhazel 18:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
xsaewe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.108.65.74 (talk) 21:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
USA Curfew Section
[edit]I dont think curfews are in the Constitution. It's a 'power left to the states', but that should be, you know, not phrased that way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.146.108 (talk) 06:48, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Wow. I'm sorry, but this is horrible. First of all, the construction "[State] is currently, as of January 1, 2007, curfew times are" is just awful, grammatically. Even if that were corrected, a huge listing of curfew times in random states seems unnecessary. Also, as far as I can tell, some of this information is inaccurate (Illinois, at the very least, seems wrong, as curfew seems to be determined by cities or counties, and all curfew laws I've encountered in Illinois are different from what is listed here). I'm tempted to delete that whole unsightly paragraph, but I'm not sure what to replace it with. Maybe something more generic, just saying that curfew times in the US vary between states or even sometimes between cities? Or something? 24.14.99.137 05:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I live in Illinois and this is incorrect, it is decided by the city. However the times are correct for some places. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.53.238 (talk) 03:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
While municipalities can impose more severe curfews, there is an Illinois statute providing for curfew, the Child Curfew Act (720 ILCS 555/1). The information contained in the Illinois section is not accurate, and there is no reason to single out Illinois for treatment, so I'm removing the section.
Youth bedtime
[edit]god someone right something worth talking about ,....your all fags!?>
Youth Curfew section
[edit]needs citations. may have neutrality issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.201.244 (talk) 01:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
== French origins ==na
The word 'curfew' originates from the Old French word 'cuevrefu', meaning 'cover fire'? Falcon-eagle2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.246.56 (talk) 21:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Controversy
[edit]I think there should be a controversy/criticism section IMHO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.51.245.138 (talk) 04:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
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The section on “au pair girls” needs citations and seems sexist
[edit]Is it really the law in the U.S. that au pairs can be forced to follow a curfew set by the “head of the household”? (This would be seen as unconstitutional in Germany if the au pair is over 18 years old, otherwise the parents or legal guardians would be the ones to decide - who could of course delegate this to the adults in a host household.) If this only applies to au pairs who are not of age, it should say so in the article. Who is the general who is recommending 9 p.m. for their curfew, anyway? Just kidding, but I really would like to see some citations if an article says “generally recommended”. Also, why does the article only talk about au pair “girls”, when au pairs can be any gender? Or does this really mean that the generally recommended curfew only applies to female au pairs? I think “au pair girls” should be replaced by “au pairs” everywhere, if that is not the case (which I really hope). -sebi- (talk) 08:52, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
COVID-19
[edit]A curfew began due to COVID-19! WPUser6 (talk) 18:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Separate section or article needed
[edit]A separate section on this article or a link/creation of a new article relating specifically to COVID-19 curfews would help clean this article up as stated in the clean-up tag.
Jmaxx37 (talk) 06:51, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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