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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2022

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Change the following sentence to show that the US no longer designatess the group as terrorists. See following citations https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/20/us-removes-ultranationalist-israeli-group-from-terror-list and https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-removes-radical-jewish-group-kach-4-others-from-list-of-terror-organizations/

Today, both groups are considered terrorist organisations by Israel,[3] Canada,[4] the European Union,[5] Japan,[6] and the United States.[7] 46.117.204.46 (talk) 15:43, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: see section immediately above. And per your Aljazeera source, "The State Department said Kahane Chai and the other four groups will retain their SDGT designations" Cannolis (talk) 11:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Islamophobia

Change criticism of islam to islamophobis this is a xenophobic organisation 193.210.167.118 (talk) 16:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The following change is recommended to provide context into discussed events. Care has been taken to keep phrasing and details neutral.

Change "In 2022, the United States removed the group from its list of terrorist organizations." to "In 2022, the United States removed the group from its list of terrorist organizations, alongside 4 inactive groups.

The citations for the above sentence is a dead link. The following is a suitable replacement: https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099088398/u-s-to-remove-groups-from-foreign-terrorism-blacklist DanielTheManual (talk) 13:21, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DanielTheManual:

Question: why is the subordinate clause "alongside 4 inactive groups" relevant to this sentence? Colonestarrice (talk) 10:22, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Saying directly it was due to inactivity would be presumptive as the reasons were not publicly disclosed. However the grouping alongside other inactive groups is suggestive that the removal was not due to a reevaluation of Kack's goals and means of action, which readers may presume if not given the additional context. I thought providing context without conclusion in the most neutral feasible language reflects known facts most accurately. DanielTheManual (talk) 05:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: I've updated the broken ref using your source but I've not included this text because it still strikes me as extraneous and redundant. Colonestarrice (talk) 00:45, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish Defense League is not a paramilitary wing of Kach

The JDL operated almost exclusively in the U.S. and Canada, and thus does not fulfill the definition of a political paramilitary wing of a political party. Aside from both being founded by Meir Kahane, the groups are fairly different in their goals (one being combatting antisemitism in America, the other being more focused on religious Zionism and anti-Arabism). A. Rosenberg (talk) 18:49, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 August 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Kach (political party) be renamed and moved to Kach.

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Kach (political party) → Kach – This article is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:00, 23 August 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans 15:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support it’s the primary use. FortunateSons (talk) 17:18, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Not sure it's the primary topic over all those placenames. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at them before opening the moving request, they mostly have a few hundred inhabitants. I would argue the party really is the primary topic. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: I don’t think a consensus is formed yet. It would be nice if the nominator would provide analysis that led to their conclusions. Best, Reading Beans 15:36, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of analysis are you missing in my previous comment? I did not comment on the politician and the military officer, but both are also just barely notable. The party is strongly notable. PhotographyEdits (talk) 15:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think comparing the page views might be useful? But I’m not sure how to show that. FortunateSons (talk) 15:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page view analysis would definitely support a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC argument. —Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:57, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thank you for looking this up! PhotographyEdits (talk) 18:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]