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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Franz Schubert (pictured), a prolific composer of songs, symphonies and other works, gave only one public concert presenting his own works?

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Audio[edit]

The pronunciation of Schubert's full name needs a good audio by a native person. – Hamid Hassani (talk) 16:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Birth and death place in infobox[edit]

Is the aim to show as little as possible for these? (... also no mention of Wilhelm August Rieder in the caption, I see, but lots of other detail?) Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:CREDITS discourages crediting the artist in infoboxes. I've also thought that that caption is quite wordy, I'd suggest getting rid of it completely and expanding the details on the image description page (MOS:CAPSUCCINCT). As for the birth and death locations, I have no idea why more detailed ones are getting reverted. Ligaturama (talk) 09:44, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, discourages, but not prohibits? I guess we are unlikely to get a whole new article for that painting (as we did for the lead image at Beethoven). But I honestly think the linked name of the artist with a date would be more useful. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Having the artist in an infobox works fine on The Firebird, if an FA example is needed MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

which infobox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant that if consensus later comes to add an infobox, having the artist in the caption isn't banned, as seen on The Firebird's IB. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:22, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everyone. I think adding an infobox to this article would be wonderful, now that they are more in fashion compared to many years ago. Would anyone strongly oppose this? Zingarese talk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 03:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Signature shows instead of portrait when hovering over Schubert on a different page[edit]

Is this because the portrait was made after Schubert died? If so, should we swap it with another portrait that was made during his lifetime? Wikieditor662 (talk) 22:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An example of the problem is seen at Symphony No. 8 (Schubert). Hovering the mouse over "Franz Schubert's" in the first sentence displays the signature from the article as an image, followed by an extract of text from the lead. That is done by system software, see mw:Page Previews. The software magically chooses which image to use and it picked the signature rather than the portrait. I have no idea, but the problem is probably due to the strange wikitext used in the article. In summary it is:

The portrait includes the signature in the caption. We could experiment with the wikitext or ask for assistance at WP:VPT. Problem: After changing the wikitext, it is likely that the software will not update the image used in the page preview until a fair bit of time has passed (hours or days?). Johnuniq (talk) 03:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still see the signature instead of his portrait when hovering over it, perhaps we should add an infobox? It would probably fix the problem Wikieditor662 (talk) 11:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see the his image now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]