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    August 21

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    When it says "the code is incorrect" what do I do?

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    Like, I'm trying to long in (make an account) and it doesn't let me cuz the code is supossedly "incorrect", I don't know what to do :(( 2800:810:492:13C:59EB:46F2:EA0B:7032 (talk) 03:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If you don't already have an account then start at Special:CreateAccount. I suggest giving an email address so you can get a password reset if you forget the password. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting authorization to update the Lally School Wikipedia page

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    Hello fellow Wikipedians,

    I am assistant professor at the RPI Lally School (Sebastian Souyris, https://faculty.rpi.edu/sebastian-souyris) and want to do a big update the Lally Wikipedia page (Lally School of Management). Much of the existing information is old. Can you allow me please to do it? S124816 (talk) 04:50, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    S124816, I understand that you want to edit Lally School of Management. Thank you for complying with the Paid contributions disclosure. That is a great first step. I also see that you only have 24 edits to Wikipedia. How confident are you that you fully and deeply understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines? Do you understand the deep opposition that many, many volunteer editors feel about paid editors who defy those policies and guidelines? Have you thoroughly studied and absorbed our guideline about editing with a conflict of interest? Do you understand that your best course of action is to submit neutrally written, well-refenced formal edit requests at Talk: Lally School of Management? I advise you to proceed with great caution and care with your plan to make a big update to this article. Cullen328 (talk) 06:05, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Cullen328, thank you for pointing out to the policies and guidelines, conflict of interest, and edit requests references. I understand and appreciate enormously the neutrality of Wikipedia and your efforts to keep it that way. I will follow the policies and guidelines to proceed with the big update update.
    S124816. I'd suggest using template:Edit COI on the talk page of Lally School of Management. I've added it to my watchlist. In general, it is designed for replacements. (ex Dean: Michael Smith should actually be Dean:David Brown and include the references.) this will allow another editor to evaluate your proposed changes and take action. Again, than you for being willing to work through the Paid contributor rules. (And yes, I know you aren't being paid to specifically edit wikipedia, it is somewhat more broad than that.Naraht (talk) 15:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Will do. Thanks, @Naraht. S124816 (talk) 16:02, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I link a section of an article into a category page?

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    I have tried looking at the various help pages about categorization, but I cannot seem to figure it out.

    I was looking at Category:Lists of tallest buildings in New Jersey page and noticed that you can link sections of an article into a category, which had been done three times on this page. There is one section of a page that is notably missing, New Brunswick, New Jersey#Tallest buildings, but I cannot figure out how to add it to the category. I have tried looking at the source code for the other three pages that are linked to the sections of their articles, but it seems it doesn't even exist in the code. I know I cannot just directly add it to the category page either, as that is not what was done on the category page. Honestly I wouldn't mind if someone did this for me, but I just cannot figure it out myself. Thanks! Hij802 (talk) 05:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You add the category to the redirect to the section (creating the redirect if it doesn't already exist). Clarityfiend (talk) 09:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hij802: Those three entries in Category:Lists of tallest buildings in New Jersey are in italics which means they are redirects. There is also a redirect at List of tallest buildings in New Brunswick but it's not currently in the category. See Help:Redirect#Creating and editing redirects. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:47, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Possible to get info into box by name of wikidata item?

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    Hello helpful helpers,

    I have written several articles about particular power stations and I normally just pick up the infobox info from wikidata automatically by simply writing “Infobox power station” inside curly brackets - for example see Atlas power station.

    However occasionally one article covers more than one power station, for example Afşin-Elbistan power stations. As the A and B power stations have so much in common I don’t want to split the article.

    I would like an infobox for the A section and another for the B section. Is there any way I can say something like “Infobox power station - get the info from wikidata item Q6101862”? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Chidgk1, you can use |qid= like so: {{Infobox power station |qid=Q6101862 |name=Afşin-Elbistan B}}. It seems the name is taken from the page name, that's why I'm setting it manually. Rummskartoffel 09:00, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Perfect - thank you very much Chidgk1 (talk) 16:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Is it possible to get WSOP free chips from websites that provides links?

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    As a passionate player of the World Series of Poker (WSOP), I’ve always enjoyed the thrill of the game and the challenge it presents. The excitement of competing against skilled players from around the world is unmatched. Recently, I discovered a way to get free chips through a website called <redacted spamlink>, which has allowed me to keep playing without spending real money. However, I’m curious—are these free chips obtained from such websites legal and safe to use in accordance with WSOP’s terms and conditions? Hafiz Chand ali (talk) 10:03, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Why ask us? Ask the WSOP organizers. (But remember, there's no such thing as a free lunch.) Clarityfiend (talk) 10:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, you're right. I should ask the WSOP organizers directly. Initially, I didn't think of this. Hafiz Chand ali (talk) 10:21, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I create a wikipedia for my company

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    Hi everyone,

    I would like to create a page for my company which was incorporated in 2021. We are a training provider (private) registered under Malaysia's Ministry of Human Resources to conduct trainings for all companies incorporated in Malaysia. We will be listing down our history, core business and divisions similar to this company (The Italian Baker).

    Thanks in advance, Dinesh. DineshVijayan (talk) 11:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @DineshVijayan Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing!
    You have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and MUST declare your association on your user page at User:DineshVijayan. In order to create an article about a company, it needs to satify Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:05, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please Correct Tim Walz's Page

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    Greetings. Please update Gov. Tim Walz's main page. He is not an Afghanistan War veteran and never deployed to Afghanistan. The insignificant link to Operation Enduring Freedom has nothing to do with him deploying to or serving in Afghanistan. One cannot be an Afghanistan, Iraq, or Vietnam War veteran unless they actually physically went and served there. ScottAvant (talk) 15:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Discuss this on the article talk page - there are plenty of people watching it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems to have been dealt with at Talk:Tim_Walz#Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_21_August_2024_(2). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:36, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Donald S. Rugoff | Film producer

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    Donald S. Rugoff Film producer

    I could not find Wiki entry for Film Producer Donald S. Rugoff. Please see following links and update.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/29/obituaries/donald-rugoff-62-presided-over-chain-of-movie-theaters.html https://mrrugoff.com/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11233002/ https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4178145/ https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/mij/15031809.0004.104/--donald-rugoff-cinema-v-and-commercial-strategies?rgn=main;view=fulltext 23.128.56.81 (talk) 18:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry, first off, he doesn't seem too notable. We can't cite his own website nor can we cite IMDb. I also don't think the help desk is any kind of place to request article be written. Thanks and goodbye. MallardTV (talk) 19:06, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia has fairly strict rules about the requirements for an article: the subject must meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, which mostly comes down to "Has there been enough independent reliably published material about this subject to base an article on?", remembering that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.
    There is a place where you can request an article be written - requested articles, but in all honesty, the take-up from there is very low.
    If you can find suitable source, and you are not Rugoff, then you may try to create an article yourself. But creating an article is hard, and people who try it before they have spent several weeks (at least) learning how Wikipedia works often have a frustrating experience. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 19:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Why is 2FA only enableable on your account through making a special request?

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    Having my account recently hacked (via a data breach or something), this is understandably something I want to enable, but for some reason, this is not a default thing you can enable in your account options like most of the websites on the internet or something. This should ABSOLUTELY be an option for every user to activate if they want to and not something that requires special permission. Jtrainor (talk) 19:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    To avoid situation when many thousands users lose their authentication devices and then bombard this board and developers with requests to somehow reset their accounts. Ruslik_Zero 19:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Questions about the Wikimedia software or the user interface are best asked at one of the sections of the Village pump - perhaps WP:VPR. ColinFine (talk) 19:51, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Help Needed with Vaibhav Palhade Draft Article

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    Hello, I am working on a draft article about Draft:Vaibhav Palhade, an Indian filmmaker and author. The article has been declined multiple times, primarily due to concerns about notability and sourcing. I would appreciate it if experienced editors could review the draft and provide suggestions or edits to help meet Wikipedia's guidelines, particularly in improving notability and finding reliable sources. Thank you in advance for your assistance!

    Ballal2003 Ballal2003 (talk) 20:24, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Ballal2003. You can't "improve notability" - he either is notable or he isn't; and you establish that he is by finding sources that meet the triple criterion of reliability, independence, and significant coverage - see WP:42.
    It is unlikely that anybody here will be willing to do the work of looking for the sources (which is the major work that goes into writing an article) - not impossible, but unlikely. ColinFine (talk) 21:07, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "In addition to his work in film and literature, Palhade has contributed to education through various initiatives." All that means is "he's done some teaching". Well, so have I. That's not evidence of notability; it's not even worth mentioning. Maproom (talk) 22:08, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How to Add Image to Draft ? Can i get help with that ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ballal2003 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    August 22

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    Two queries

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    1. Since 2014, Nikhilanand Panigrahy has been edited by the coincidentally-named User:Nikhilanand.panigrahy, the equally-coincidentally-named User:Ramakanta Panigrahy, and a couple of IP addresses until it has become a 3900+-byte CV. (Unsourced claims of having written 1500 papers, etc.) Given the two user accounts are clearly self-promotional SPAs (neither has ever edited any other article), would any admins be able to hand down a few blocks so they stop reverting the attempts at pruning the CV?
    2. Also in 2014, User:Padmacharan123 created the article Bibhuprasad Mohapatra, which was sent to AFD and deleted for being "essentially an unsources [sic] BLP with some links to articles written by the subject in one particular blog site." Padmacharan then seems to have waited 12 months, then recreated the article again, meaning it now sits today as an... unsourced BLP with some links to articles written by the subject in one particular blog site. Since I can't see deleted articles, would any admins be able to see if the newer article is similar enough to the previous one for wp:G4 to apply?

    2603:8001:4542:28FB:FD6E:8061:B945:3A49 (talk) 06:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC) (Actual talk)[reply]

    Nikhilanand Panigrahy is a mess. Most of it is completely unsourced. Of the parts that are sourced. there are five refs in total: four are dead and the fifth fails verification. It's possible that that ref was only there to source the claim that the school had changed names, since it is unlikely that a university home page ever confirmed that a given person was an alumnus. Article tagged, editor pointed to COI. If sources are not found this will likely be an AFD candidate. Meters (talk) 07:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I suggest going directly to AfD, no reason to wait. There is nothing in that page that comes close to satisfying WP:NPROF, particularly as Google Scholar only finds one publication. No proof of any publications. The claim that Ph.D. thesis was about theoretical Solid State Physics is very, very dubious without publications. My experience with AfD of physicists is that this one is a no-brainer delete. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Blocked for using wrong username

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    Hi My name is Tom Henderson (TomH300). I quite innocently made an error when I wrote my article on Vectar Project, by using the name Vectar project. I was asked to login as a new user (tomH300) and I now find that the page is still blocked. Can you please help TomH300 (talk) 08:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I have already answered this (with happy news for you) at WP:TH. In future, please post a question/request to either one of these two pages. -- Hoary (talk) 09:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    "my article"

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    how i know my article is published ? Mohdfuad585 (talk) 08:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Which article is your article, Mohdfuad585?
    User:Mohdfuad585 is going to be deleted, because it is not what user pages are for, and contains a stream of peacock language.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:32, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with maintenance message

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    I'm currently getting a CS1 maintenance message on this particular use of {{Cite web}}:

    <ref>{{cite web |last1=Wagner |first1=Richard |title=Lansdowne 2.0 — some key questions remain unanswered |url=https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/wagner-lansdowne-2-0-some-key-questions-remain-unanswered |website=[[Ottawa Citizen]] |access-date=16 August 2024 |date=9 August 2023 |quote=...the City of Ottawa is being asked by OSEG to invest at least $332.6 million into Lansdowne 2.0, which is in addition to the $136 million invested by the city in Lansdowne in 2014. |url-status=live |url-access=limited}}</ref>

    Maintenance messages don't specify the problem like error messages do, but I'd like to know what the problem is here, and how to fix it, so I can avoid it in the future. Thanks in advance! — AFC Vixen 🦊 13:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The warning is "CS1 maint: url-status". - UtherSRG (talk) 13:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That said, I'm not sure why you are getting it. Have you tried running the article (with the ref included) through cite-bot? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @AFC Vixen The problem is that you have used the |url-status= parameter but have not supplied an archive-url. According to {{cite web}} the latter is a prerequisite for using the former. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:20, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm a bit embarrassed that I somehow missed the |url-status= I accidentally orphaned when I got rid of an |archive-url=, but thank you two heaps for pointing this out! — AFC Vixen 🦊 13:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing template text

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    This might not be the right place for this, but I will start here. I had previously tagged a couple of articles with {{sources exist}} because I knew that there were sources in both for numerous unsourced paragraphs. I was told that it was for "articles with insufficient references to prove WP:GNG" which is not what the actual text of the template says. It was suggested that I use {{refideas}}, but that is also not right, in the end the compromise is {{more sources needed}}. That is still not right as the sources definitely exist. (If don't want to tag every sentence with {{citation needed}} as that would be too much work.) Is there a better tag, and/or probably the text of {{sources exist}} should be changed if it is supposed to be a notability tag. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Ldm1954 Template:More footnotes needed? PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:42, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Tag it with{{More citations needed}} and leave a talk page discussion about it is your best bet. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 06:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    "Start a discussion" on Talk Pages

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    A new feature appeared today on Talk pages for both articles and users. It is part of mediawiki software since the banner appears without any code being visible in the source. On most editor's Talk Page (at the bottom) it shows "Start a discussion with X" and ".... What you say here will be public for others to see." along with the now-familiar flower icon and a big blue button for starting a new section. Two questions:

    1) Why does it use the word "say" rather than "write"? (Maybe because we call them Talk Pages, not Write Pages!)

    2) Why does the banner on my Talk Page show a different message, namely, "Welcome to your talk page" and "People on Wikipedia can use this talk page to post a public message for you, and you will be notified when they do." but no big blue button? Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Registered users only see it if "Enable quick topic adding" is enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. "say" can include writing as wiktionary:say#Verb says. I think "say" is a good fit for a two-person discussion. An administrator can change it by creating MediaWiki:Discussiontools-emptystate-desc-user which currently shows a default message, but a good reason would be needed. If it's created then a later modification of the default message would not be reflected. You are not supposed to start discussions on your own talk page so it makes sense that the "Start a discussion" button is omitted there. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah! So when others look at my Talk Page, they get the standard message: that makes sense. Thanks. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Joseph Hill violin

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    Are there any specific or special Markings to confirm the violin is genuine Ballynascreen (talk) 14:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If you mean Joseph Hill (violin maker) then you will need to use Google to find a specialist. Knitsey (talk) 14:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately our article at Joseph Hill (violin maker) is very poor and doesn't answer your question. Someone may be able to help if you ask again at the entertainment reference desk. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Where to advertise/promote a proposed rework of a page for critique and other review?

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    Greetings, so I've been working on this here massive rework of List of foodborne illness outbreaks in the United States for a hot minute, and while it still needs some work before I submit it to one or more appropriate channels, I have tried to promote my proposed rewrite for others to critique on the main page's talk page, but it does not appear to have received any attention since I posted it. If allowed, where would be an appropriate place to have a better chance of other editors critique it and, once it's done, submit it for review? Thanks in advance! TinglesFrickinMap (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @TinglesFrickinMap: Try asking at WT:WikiProject Lists, or the talk pages of the other projects listed on your article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you put a notice at relevant projects with a link to the existing question on the article talk page, that helps to keep the discussion in one place. TSventon (talk) 16:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pigsonthewing @TSventon Thank you both for the suggestions! Went ahead and put up the proposed rework on the talk pages of some of the more relevant WikiProjects. TinglesFrickinMap (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I use Google Translate?

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    I was looking at the page Aramis (wrestler), a page that I have wanted to improve before, and I decided to look at the Español version. I noticed that the Español version has more writing in the Career section than in the English version. Am I allowed to Google Translate the part of the Career section on the Español page into English? Zabro29 (talk) 16:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes. And no.
    Yes: To give yourself a private version of the Español into the approximate, near-but-not-English that Google Translate outputs.
    No: Do not dump that near-but-not-English text into the English article. Instead, use your knowledge of English to write that translated text into encyclopedia-quality English.
    Further: Be aware that the English Wikipedia has high standards regarding the citation of claims in the text. The Español version might not have had such high standards. So you may need to find additional citations (English, preferably) or cut out the unsupported parts of the text.
    Hope that helps. Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See Help:Translation You will need to acknowledge the source in an edit summary. It may be possible to copy over the original es references to be translated by a bot. TSventon (talk) 16:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to restore deleted wikipedia page

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    how to restore deleted wikipedia page?? Ganeshlingam111 (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Ganeshlingam111, that depends on the specific circumstances. What was the title of the deleted article? Cullen328 (talk) 19:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Probably Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rap Rakesh Sethulingam. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Rap Rakesh Sethulingam Ganeshlingam111 (talk) 21:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Title : Rap Rakesh Sethulingam Ganeshlingam111 (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This one would likely come under WP:REFUND. A talk page message to Liz might be enough in this instance. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It depends which procedure was used to delete it. See deletion review. But be aware that you will need to understand Wikipedia's deletion policy, and make a policy-based argument. A deleted article will not generally be restored just because you want it to be. ColinFine (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I read that this person is the Pioneer of Music "YouTuber" in Tamilnadu who started the first Independent Artist YouTube Channel and Released two Official songs before the start up of YouTube Channels like Sony Music, Saregama, T series,etc.. This isn't so easy to understand (notably, what distinguishes an "official" song from any other song?); additionally, the capitalization has got out of hand. -- Hoary (talk) 03:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    August 23

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    How To Make a Article

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    How Do You? EggzBeatsGamez (talk) 03:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @EggzBeatsGamez: start by choosing a subject that meets our notability requirements (WP:N). If your subject is not notable, then there is nothing you can do to create an article for Wikipedia. After you are sure your subject is notable, come back here for further instructions. -Arch dude (talk) 03:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And via an apprenticeship of carefully thought out, beneficial edits. (Not like this third edit of yours.) -- Hoary (talk) 04:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thoughts on notability of these three academics?

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    I am not particularly experienced with writing biographies, or WP:NACADEMIC, so I thought I'd ask for second thoughts here on if these three people are notable, because in an editing field I work in often (esotericism/cults) I run into them a lot and use them for citations very often, and I like having the fields in my citations have blue links.

    I don't know how the finer details of NACADEMIC work or if they'd pass it - would they? It says something about h-indexes but I don't even know where to begin with finding that out. All three of them have multiple books (either written or edited, though sometimes co-edited. Not sure how that affects NAUTHOR) that they wrote that themselves pass NBOOK with several reviews, though I think of the three we only currently have an article on a book Petersen wrote (Contemporary Religious Satanism). In any case even if they are notable by a technical SNG pass I'm not sure I'd even write the articles because I'm not sure if I could make it good enough for my own standards, but I'm curious if I could. Thoughts? PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:21, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    PARAKANYAA, the links you offer aren't usable for much. For each of these three academics, has his work been discussed at any length by academics other than, and independent of, himself? Or has it been summarized in textbooks on the subject? Choose the most promising (from this perspective) of the three, and here (in this thread), link to what you consider the three best sources, quality being a combination of reliability, independence (from each other as well as from the subject), and depth. -- Hoary (talk) 07:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Hoary I know they're not independent, they just show citations and works which I have been told matters for academic notability. I don't think textbooks exist for this subject. I mean, their works have plenty reviews and citations and there are other works that recount their arguments.
    Bogdan's books are reviewed here:
    [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]
    There's some more but I got bored of looking for them when I feel that established the point. Several authors in books recount his arguments on the topic. I don't really know what helps here. PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:50, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That is indeed an impressive-looking list of reviews. (I didn't even skimread any of them. I plead laziness.) Even in academic journals, reviews can at times be petty, superficial or wrongheaded; and sometimes the reviewer seems to want to summarize the book that they wish they'd published on the same subject; but more often than not academic reviews do have content that can beneficially be summarized. If you based a draft on Bogdan on such material, I imagine that you'd get a worthwhile article out of it. -- Hoary (talk) 08:20, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @PARAKANYAA Just to point out that we have an article on the H-index which you may find helpful. Bogdan's value of 15 would not be considered very high but he is working in an esoteric area (pun intended). Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:24, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    article cant be published

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    hey there, ive recently writen an article under the title of sadat people but out of some reason my article isnt published yet Sheikh Said Heshmatullah ibn Ashraf al-Mohammadi (talk) 08:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sheikh Said Heshmatullah ibn Ashraf al-Mohammadi If you are referring to the content of your sandbox, it is "published" in that it is on Wikipedia's computers, but it is not yet formally part of the encyclopedia, as you lack the information to submit it. It's better to create drafts via the article wizard, which makes it easier to submit them. We can edit your draft to permit you to submit it, but if you were to submit it, it would be rejected quickly, as it is completely unsourced. You need to source the information that you are providing, please see Referencing for Beginners. 331dot (talk) 09:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    but how do i even list the sources? if i list the sources then my article will be published? Sheikh Said Heshmatullah ibn Ashraf al-Mohammadi (talk) 09:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There are other issues as well(see the below comment) but sources are a must. Again, please see Referencing for Beginners.
    If English is not your primary language, you may feel more comfortable editing the Wikipedia that is written in your primary language. 331dot (talk) 10:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In addition to the other answers, I will point out that "An Exploration" of anything is almost certainly original research, which is not permitted in a Wikipedia article. An article should be a summary of what reliable independent sources have said about a subject, nothing more. It should not contain any analysis, argumentation or conclusions (except possibly a summary of the analysis, argumentation or conclusions in a single cited source). ColinFine (talk) 11:10, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey thanks for replaying, i have all the sources but the problem is that i dont know how to list them on my article the only reason i published my article was the it was kind of urgent situation, but i can read the beginner guide and also i speak several languages but i feel my feel most comfortable writing the article in english because it would be the most accurate with what the sources say. Sheikh Said Heshmatullah ibn Ashraf al-Mohammadi (talk) 07:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Gems from User talk:Sheikh Said Heshmatullah ibn Ashraf al-Mohammadi/sandbox: "rich", "unique", "noble", "esteemed", etc. Such awestruck language is not suitable for Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 09:23, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Name change of otherwise non-notable transgender person in another article

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    I am a transgender person who is mentioned in a Wikipedia article under my deadname. I was a significant participant in events described in the article, and several sources for the article describe me under that name. I would like to correct the name, as

    1. it was a significant accomplishment of mine, which I now have to hide to avoid people looking it up on Wikipedia and finding my deadname, and

    2. friends of mine have (without my prior involvement) tried to correct it and they get frustrated when their correction is reverted.

    Unfortunately, as the events described in the article are passed, nobody is likely to write about my connection to them under my new name in a public source which can be cited on Wikipedia. Is there any way to update the name, that meets Wikipedia's policies, so is less likely to be reverted? 77.11.43.185 (talk) 12:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What is your current article name? If you were not notable until after your name change, your deadname doesn't have to be mentioned per MOS:ID. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 12:21, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As you say this event occurred under your deadname, this passage of MOS:GENDERID seems to be the relevant one: "Former names under which a living person was notable should be introduced with "born" or "formerly" in the lead sentence of their main biographical article. Name and gender matters should be explained at first appearance in that article, without overemphasis. In articles on works or other activities of such a person, use their current name by default, and give another name associated with that context in a parenthetical or footnote, only if they were notable under that name. In other articles, do not go into detail about such a person's name or gender except when directly relevant to the context.". If this event occurred under your deadname, it's going to be difficult to keep your deadname out completely.(see Chelsea Manning as an example) 331dot (talk) 12:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My question is about how to get my new name in the article at all as well as reducing the appearance of the old name. Basically I'd like to know what my options are. 77.11.43.185 (talk) 12:44, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I may be slightly wrong but I believe the correct thing per policy would be to use your current name followed by a "born as" or "formerly" with your deadname, such as "John Doe (formerly Jane Doe) did XYZ thing". 331dot (talk) 12:53, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If I'm correct in my reading of MOS:GENDERID, if reliable sources state your preferred name, there is reason to move (rename) the article and have the lead sentence say "Name (formerly Name, born May 1, 1980) ..." or something similar to that. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 12:54, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to clarify, this user seems to be talking about an existing article where they are mentioned, not writing an article about themselves. 331dot (talk) 12:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand, which is why I mentioned moving a preexisting article. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Either you are misunderstanding or I am. I don't believe any page move is necessary, since this person is not the subject of any article. They are mentioned in an article that is not primarily about them, and they are looking to remove the use of their deadname in that article.
    By my reading of GENDERID, I think the "only if they were notable under that name" clause is controlling here. If this person was notable under their deadname, we should use the parenthetical/footnote option presented by 331dot. If not, we should just use the current name, provided we can reasonably prove that one name is correct and the other a deadname. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I misunderstood the message as them having an article about them, rather than being mentioned in another article. My apologies. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 13:32, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If people here are not sure, or if it is a question of clarifying a policy, Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard may be a better venue. TSventon (talk) 13:42, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless I'm missing something, a problem that the above replies have not addressed is the lack of reliable sources mentioning the name change. MOS:GENDERID says Refer to any person whose gender might be questioned with the name and gendered words ... that reflect the person's most recent expressed self-identification as reported in the most recent reliable sources. Is the lack of reliable sources with the new name a total bar, and if so, is there something I could do myself that would count as a reliable source? Or is my only option to try and get the existing reliable sources to issue corrections? 77.11.43.185 (talk) 14:29, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Reliable" depends on context, and we typically find credible self-published statements reliable for identity claims like this. If you have a verified website or social media account, a statement there would probably suffice. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:21, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing a curious "notes" section on a Wiki page

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    On the main page on the artist El Greco, the notes section, El Greco#Notes, is displayed in an odd vertical format instead of the normal line-by-line format. Is there a way to edit this format so that it reads in a more normal manner? Thanks. What fun would there be if we already knew all there is to know? (talk) 17:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I think this is because of the huge Timeline next to it. (It looks OK to me, but I imagine it would be problematic with a narrower screen width). I don't think there's a technical fix, apart from moving the timeline. I suggest raising it on the article's talk page. ColinFine (talk) 17:49, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Pronunciation

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    Is it possible for wikipedia to include a more readable guide to pronunciation for each item. The current symbols are unreadable/incomprehensible to the layperson. thanks john 2604:3D08:5A8A:6900:8CBE:97C5:9315:5237 (talk) 17:29, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The problem with using a more "comprehensible to the layperson" scheme is that laypeople from Birmingham, Birmingham, Boston, Bloemfontein, Brisbane, Bangaluru or Dunedin (couldn't find a major B in New Zealand) will understand it rather differently from each other. That's one of the main reasons for using IPA.
    Having said that, MOS:PRON does say The Wikipedia respelling system, using the {{respell}} template, can be used in addition to the IPA, so you're welcome to add pronunciations using that scheme wherever you wish. ColinFine (talk) 18:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Those incomprehensible strings of symbols are in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). There are several IPA readers on the Internet. I use IPA reader. if you paste the IPA into the IPA reader it will pronounce it for you. -Arch dude (talk) 22:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Need Help! Accidentally deleted Heading "Gyroklystron" in article "Klystron"

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    I was editing the article "Klystron ", by adding a citation to the heading "Gyroklystron" ( located after heading "Reflex Klystron") and somehow, I deleted the heading "Gyroklystron " could someone please fix that and/or please help me to fix it? I think there is some conflict between the browser on my phone and Wikipedia 's visual interface, because when I click in a location to edit, the cursor keeps being sent somewhere else. I'm even having trouble posting this question - the text of my description keeps disappearing. Thanks. Sorry for the trouble. Taliesin13 (talk) 18:31, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I see that Cryptic (talk · contribs) took care of this. Jc3s5h (talk) 18:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    When in doubt, you can undo your own edit from the edit history menu. This returns the page to the state it was in before your edit. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    media permission

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    message indicating media may be deleted in 7 days unless copyright holder provides some permission. There is no copyright, this was provided when license CC(0) was created.

    what to do when no copyright exists?? MikeMARS52 (talk) 19:02, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I assume that you are talking about File:Celebration Joe Chambers.jpg. The file information page says that the photo was taken by Royce Degrie, who is a professional headshot and portrait photographer in Brentwood, Tennessee. Why do you say that no copyright exists? Do you have a legally binding document from Royce Degrie saying that he has released this photo into the public domain? If not, the photo became copyright protected the moment it was first published. Cullen328 (talk) 19:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MikeMARS52 After a bit of detective work, I assume this relates to File:Young Joe Chambers.png which you uploaded to Commons. You assert that you have the permission to do this from the daughter of the photographer. That is not sufficient. You must follow the procedure described at c:Commons:Volunteer_Response_Team, which involves the copyright holder emailing Commons volunteers to confirm they have licensed the file in the ways allowed on Commons. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ... so that's at least two files that are not correctly licensed yet. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    August 24

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    Re: Archie Henderson (comedian)

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    Hello. I created an article about Archie Henderson (comedian) and just went to upload it. I then discovered there were versions in draft that have been rejected a few times.

    What is the protocol about uploading a new version which, I believe, has sufficient quality citations? bbc.co.uk, theguardian.com, telegraph.co.uk plus newspapers.

    It is a much reduced version of what was proposed before, but I believe it fits requirements.

    Do I just copy and paste my new article into the draft space? Any suggestions appreciated.

    Thank you 04:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC) BJCHK (talk) 04:02, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I will suggest you to improve Draft:Archie Henderson (comedian). It was declined couple of times and needs improvement, you can improve that. If you think that some portion from that draft need to be removed (non-cited) do it and if you have enough sources from across the web, then include them too.–– kemel49(connect)(contri) 04:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @KEmel49 thanks - the thing is I have already written and prepared an entire article already so I feel a bit meh about having to rejig what's already there. I might try uploading mine and see what happens. BJCHK (talk) 05:12, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Then i would suggest you to submit your piece of work to AFC through your sandbox.–– kemel49(connect)(contri) 05:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to make a draft page but it is a redirect.

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    I would like to make a draft page for the Iyanya album Applaudise but it's a redirect. Should I just turn the redirect to a page? OsigbemheEJB (talk) 04:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    First create a draft as Draft:Applaudise. after completing that draft, Submit to AFC. rest will be done then only.–– kemel49(connect)(contri) 05:21, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    St Anne's College, Oxford

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    Reference number 18 on this page is incorrect. Please repair. I cannot. Sorry and thank you, 175.38.37.197 (talk) 05:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This appears resolved. Tollens (talk) 08:15, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Regensburg subcamp

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    There's a discussion of the footnotes on Talk:Regensburg subcamp. Not to mention the lack of engagement from the primary author, s/he doesn't seem to have the skill to fix the references so that the resources are moved to the bottom and titled bibliography. This is standard for better quality articles. I am not a subject matter expert in this topic so I'm requesting some help over in that section of the talk page. Logoshimpo (talk) 08:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    what kind of words arent allowed to use in wikipedia

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    what are the words you cant use Sheikh Said Heshmatullah ibn Ashraf al-Mohammadi (talk) 08:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you mean when speaking to others on talk pages? WP:NPA has what you are looking for. Logoshimpo (talk) 08:11, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This appears to be related to this comment in an earlier discussion here. I believe what that person meant is that Wikipedia articles should not attempt to promote their subject – they should not contain subjective judgments like "esteemed". Tollens (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh: WP:PEACOCK would be relevant. Logoshimpo (talk) 08:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sheikh Said Heshmatullah ibn Ashraf al-Mohammadi, please also read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch. Cullen328 (talk) 09:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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