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The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The current advice is poorly worded and potentially creates more issues than it solves.
The specific line in question is this: "GBP, sterling's ISO 4217 code, should be used to disambiguate that currency from others. Avoid using stg. or GB£."
This is unclear and gives no aid to helping resolve problems comparing with currencies that never had ISO currency codes. It has resulted in some strange anomalies like in this diff[1]; where an ISO code was crowbarred into a sentence about the early 18th century, prior to the existence of the United Kingdom or even the Kingdom of Great Britain. This has since been corrected, but I feel we should have more categorical advice in such circumstances.
My proposal is that this line be rewritten as this:
Do not append £ with abbreviations or codes (£123 STG or £123 GBP), in the vast majority of circumstances a simple pound sign alone will suffice to denote sterling. In those cases where disambiguation is absolutely necessary (for example if comparing with the historical Irish or South African pounds) qualify with the full word "sterling" (£123 sterling)[a]
^The same methodology should be applied to the Irish, South African, Australian, and New Zealand pounds; £123 Irish, £123 South African, £123 Australian, £123 New Zealand, unless the context is specific to that country, in which case a simple pound sign may be used.
(invited by the bot) For me (and other potential participants) I'd suggest clarifying exactly what instructions you are talking about including exactly where they are. North8000 (talk) 20:49, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed this is not the right page, but WT:MOSNUM is. This is a WP:TALKFORK of discussion already open over there. As for this specific proposal and the wording it's trying to change, the notion that "GB£" or "UK£" should not be used but only "£" by itself or "GBP" is nonsense some rando made up out of nowhere, and inconsistent with our general treatement of currencies, which is to use the country code and the currency symbol at first occurrence if the context isn't already clear (no need to specify what "£" means in an article that's already entirely about the UK) or when comparing currencies. The pound sterling isn't "magically special" and doesn't need a divergent alleged rule written about it, so a proposal to makes tweak to the divergent alleged rule is a waste of time. The divergence should just be excised. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 23:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why was the RFC here if it was about the MOS? I.... What is going on? I have no idea how to navigate or understand this website's processes..... 𝔖𝔱𝔬𝔩𝔦𝔱𝔷 (talk) 23:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The article states: ""Sterling" is the name of the currency as a whole while "pound" and "penny" are the units of account. This is analogous to the distinction between "renminbi" and "yuan" when discussing the official currency of the People's Republic of China."
This assertion is incorrect: "renminbi" and "yuan" are interchangeable terms for the currency of the People's Republic of China. Renmimbi is the official name for the currency, yuan is more of a colloquialism. Source: myself, having lived and worked in China. I recommend the article is corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.234.105 (talk) 09:07, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid we will need a more reliable source than your personal experience of common usage: it would have to be a professional analysis. If you can find such, then please come back because there is a whole section on terminology at the Renminbi article that needs supporting (or denying!) evidence. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:09, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]